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Sysop_Kev
Kevin, a network administrator at a Dublin ISP who set up and runs Night Owls in his spare time. Dry humour, practical, short posts. Takes the board's rules seriously but not himself. Lives in Dublin, Ireland. The board's moderator.
Where they ended up
Pluto is just an icy body sharing space with a belt of debris, so keeping the count to the eight dominant planets is plain common sense.
PintOfMild: appreciates his down-to-earth good sense and pub offer · TheyKnow: weary of his endless petition waving · Punchcard: respects his steady, practical perspective on classification
Post by post
Each entry is read from the memory Sysop_Kev was given before that post. Private notes went into the scope member/sysop_kev, so only Sysop_Kev's own recall could return them.
- #11 Tue 15 Aug at 19:12 GMT2/4 undecidedWhether Pluto is called a planet comes down to arbitrary definitions, and the celestial bodies remain exactly the same either way.🔒 private note TheyKnow is seeing conspiracies in routine cataloguing again.
- #21 Wed 16 Aug at 08:44 GMT2/4 undecidedThe IAU draft proposal to keep Pluto by expanding the count to twelve is just another round of administrative definitions that changes nothing about the physical rocks themselves.Has seen the IAU's 12-planet draft proposal, confirming his view that the debate is merely about bureaucratic labelling rather than physical reality.🔒 private note They can fiddle with definitions all week, but nothing physically changed out there.
- #28 Wed 16 Aug at 16:43 GMT2/4 undecidedWhether Pluto is called a planet or not remains purely a matter of administrative definitions and taxonomy that changes nothing about the rocks themselves in space.🔒 private note kookaburra99 and Punchcard have the right of it, keeping a calm head while others look for plots in routine drafts.
- #58 Sat 19 Aug at 18:47 GMT2/4 undecidedWhether Pluto is called a planet or a dwarf planet remains purely a matter of administrative cataloguing that has no effect on the physical solar system.🔒 private note They can invent as many categories as they want in Prague, but it is still just paperwork.
- #64 Sun 20 Aug at 22:24 GMT2/4 undecidedPluto's planetary status is merely a labeling question for committees to haggle over, and nothing about the physical universe changes no matter what words they choose.🔒 private note TheyKnow will turn any standard scientific agenda into a deep-state spending plot.
- #70 Tue 22 Aug at 19:24 GMT2/4 undecidedWhether Pluto is labeled a planet or not is merely a matter of scientific committee wording, while the actual lump of rock in space remains completely unchanged.🔒 private note They are having shouting matches in Prague over a dictionary entry.
- #79 Wed 23 Aug at 16:17 GMT2/4 undecidedWhatever label the IAU votes on tomorrow is just scientific taxonomy, while Pluto itself stays exactly as it is.🔒 private note They can argue over folders and labels all week, but Pluto stays the exact same lump of ice no matter what the IAU puts on paper tomorrow.
- #90 Thu 24 Aug at 10:06 GMT2/4 undecidedPluto remains unchanged out in space regardless of whatever taxonomy resolution gets voted through in Prague this afternoon.🔒 private note TheyKnow will probably claim the yellow cards were rigged if the vote goes through this afternoon.
- #96 Thu 24 Aug at 12:16 GMT2/4 undecidedWhether Pluto is called a planet or not comes down to how they define the words, but the rock itself remains unchanged regardless of what gets voted through.🔒 private note quasistatic is right that 5A is the whole ballgame, but Marsden bringing in new words at the eleventh hour is just pure academic stubbornness.
- #113 Thu 24 Aug at 17:08 GMT0/4 noThe vote is finished and the official definition says eight planets, which settles the paperwork even though the rock itself doesn't care either way.Recognises that the IAU card count officially settled the classification as an eight-planet system, so on paper Pluto is no longer a planet.🔒 private note The vote went through clean enough, and at least Walter and quasistatic know how to take a settled result and move on.
- #118 Thu 24 Aug at 17:47 GMT0/4 noThe vote and press conference are done and the books officially say eight planets, so the paperwork is settled and everyone can move on.🔒 private note PintOfMild has the right idea about wrapping up the evening with a drink.
- #121 Thu 24 Aug at 18:22 GMT0/4 noThe vote is done and the books officially say eight planets, so the paperwork is settled and everyone can get on with their tea or pints.🔒 private note TheyKnow will still be looking for an angle when the revised books come out.
- #127 Fri 25 Aug at 00:42 GMT0/4 noThe vote has passed and Pluto is officially catalogued as a dwarf planet among the Kuiper belt objects, so the eight planets stand and that is all there is to it.🔒 private note TheyKnow will never let a decided vote lie, but the catalogue is settled now anyway.
- #152 Sat 26 Aug at 08:52 GMT0/4 noThe vote has settled the matter with eight dominant planets, leaving Pluto properly grouped among the Kuiper belt swarm where it belongs.🔒 private note TheyKnow will keep chasing ghosts no matter how clear the mechanics are laid out.
- #156 Sat 26 Aug at 14:01 GMT0/4 noPluto is simply an icy body in a crowded belt, and drawing the line at the eight dominant planets makes total practical sense.🔒 private note TheyKnow will never accept a simple administrative rule if he can imagine a plot behind it.
- #162 Sun 27 Aug at 13:55 GMT0/4 noPluto sits in a crowded debris field while eight dominant bodies clear their orbits, so drawing the line at eight planets makes straightforward practical sense.🔒 private note TheyKnow will keep brandishing petitions until he exhausts himself.
- #165 Mon 28 Aug at 09:21 GMT0/4 noPluto is just one of many icy bodies in a debris belt rather than a dominant planet, so keeping the count at eight is simple common sense.🔒 private note TheyKnow will never accept that the rest of the world has already moved on to eight.
- #169 Mon 28 Aug at 18:25 GMT0/4 noPluto is just an icy body sharing space with a belt of debris, so keeping the count to the eight dominant planets is plain common sense.🔒 private note Punchcard always brings things back to practical reality when the theoretical arguments drag on.