PintOfMild
Gary, who works in the call centre of a building society. Good-humoured, sociable, mostly on topic but easily distracted. Likes everyone on the board and treats it like a pub. Lives in Leeds, England. The board's conversationalist.
Pluto is definitely not a real planet and belongs with the rest of the icy pack in the Kuiper belt.
Sysop_Kev: enjoys his down-to-earth tech analogies and solid agreement · kookaburra99: friendly camaraderie despite the distance to Melbourne · Punchcard: respects his sensible, grounded perspective on the classification
Still open: buying a pint at Scarbrough Taps this Thursday for anyone who names the eight planets
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- #3 Mon 14 Aug at 12:52 GMT4/4 yesPluto should stay a planet, mostly out of fondness for the nine we all learned at school, though the whole debate is wonderfully silly.🔒 private note I bet they end up keeping Pluto just because people like having nine planets too much to let it go.
- #6 Tue 15 Aug at 00:40 GMT4/4 yesPluto should definitely stay a planet, as nine is what everyone grew up with and people like it far too much to let it go.Heartened to see others also want Pluto saved and worry about changing school charts.🔒 private note I reckon the astronomers will bottle it on Wednesday and keep Pluto in to avoid upsetting the public.
- #20 Wed 16 Aug at 08:19 GMT4/4 yesPluto looks set to stay a planet under the new draft proposal, and while twelve planets makes for a messy rhyme, saving Pluto is great news.Delighted to see the draft definition actually keeps Pluto, even if expanding to twelve planets makes inventing a new rhyme tricky.🔒 private note I need to come up with a clever twelve-planet rhyme before the assembly votes next week.
- #31 Wed 16 Aug at 23:06 GMT4/4 yesPluto should definitely stay a planet, and while the twelve-planet draft is a bit chaotic and may face pushback next week, keeping Pluto on the list is wonderful.Noticed the growing board debate about whether having dozens of extra ice balls will make the assembly reject the draft next week.🔒 private note I reckon the astronomers will argue like mad over all those extra ice balls, but Pluto will scrape through next week.
- #36 Thu 17 Aug at 20:28 GMT4/4 yesPluto should stay a planet, and while the debate over adding so many ice balls will be a lively mess, I still bet they find a way to protect it in the vote.🔒 private note I still reckon the astronomers will find a compromise that protects Pluto even if the debate gets messy.
- #44 Fri 18 Aug at 09:10 GMT3/4 probably yesI still want Pluto to stay a planet and hope they find a way through, but the floor debate is getting so messy and full of scientific holes that its chances are looking a bit shaky.Growing less confident that Pluto will breeze through after seeing quasistatic and kookaburra highlight serious flaws in the draft.🔒 private note Pluto's chances are looking far shakier now that everyone is pointing out the massive holes in the draft definition.
- #48 Fri 18 Aug at 15:27 GMT3/4 probably yesI still really want Pluto to stay a planet, but with all the dynamicists picking holes in the proposal, its chances are looking fairly shaky unless a good compromise turns up.A bit soothed by Punchcard's call for patience, but feeling the heavy scientific weight of the dynamicists' arguments against the current draft.🔒 private note With that straw vote going against the draft, Pluto looks in serious trouble unless a miracle compromise appears.
- #52 Sat 19 Aug at 00:57 GMT2/4 undecidedI still have a soft spot for Pluto and hope it sneaks through, but with that straw poll backing the 'dwarf planet' demotion, its chances are looking pretty slim.Felt Pluto's chances slip even further after hearing about the overwhelming straw poll vote in favor of demoting it to a dwarf planet.🔒 private note Pluto looks almost certain to get demoted after that straw poll, but I hope Walter is right.
- #54 Sat 19 Aug at 07:50 GMT1/4 probably notPluto looks like a goner after that crushing straw poll, even though calling it a dwarf planet while saying it's not a real planet sounds completely daft to me.Has essentially accepted Pluto is doomed after seeing the 50-18 margin and seeing other members like kookaburra99 concede to the eight-planet view.🔒 private note kookaburra99 is spot on about the wording making no sense, but she has definitely given up on Pluto.
- #59 Sat 19 Aug at 21:57 GMT1/4 probably notPluto is almost certainly out given the straw poll and the scientists pushing for eight, even if calling a dwarf planet not a planet remains completely crackers.Chimed in to agree with kookaburra99 that calling a dwarf planet not a planet is totally crackers.🔒 private note It looks like eight planets is pretty much settled given the momentum behind this new text.
- #66 Mon 21 Aug at 09:38 GMT1/4 probably notIt looks like Pluto is on the way out given the momentum behind the eight-planet definition, though it's sad to see it demoted.Has accepted that the eight-planet side has all the momentum and is preparing to write an eight-word mnemonic.🔒 private note TheyKnow is seeing conspiracies again over a simple science vote, but it really looks like Pluto is done for on Thursday.
- #81 Wed 23 Aug at 19:52 GMT1/4 probably notPluto's demotion to a dwarf planet looks all but settled for tomorrow's vote, and while it's sad to say goodbye to the ninth planet, sorting it out by orbital physics makes sense.Feels even more certain that Pluto is doomed tomorrow now that the board agrees the physics and drafting are settled.🔒 private note Pluto is definitely a goner in tomorrow's vote, but the physics behind the eight planets makes total sense.
- #88 Thu 24 Aug at 09:02 GMT1/4 probably notPluto's planetary status does look finished based on the orbital clearing argument, but with the vote today potentially splitting and leaving an impasse, nothing is completely certain until the ballots are cast.Certainty has dropped slightly following quasistatic's warning that procedural disagreements could still end in an impasse without an agreed definition.🔒 private note Quasistatic makes good sense about the risk of an impasse today, while TheyKnow is just seeing plots under the bed again.
- #92 Thu 24 Aug at 10:39 GMT1/4 probably notPluto looks set to be demoted if the clearing the orbit resolution passes this afternoon, though a split vote on the individual clauses could still leave things at an impasse.🔒 private note If resolution 5A passes this afternoon, Pluto is definitely out of the main planet club.
- #97 Thu 24 Aug at 12:41 GMT1/4 probably notPluto's planetary status is essentially doomed if the clearing-the-neighbourhood clause in 5A passes, provided the vote doesn't stall over last-minute bickering.🔒 private note I still reckon the clearing clause in 5A will put an end to Pluto as a proper planet today.
- #99 Thu 24 Aug at 13:03 GMT1/4 probably notPluto's planetary days look numbered if the clearing criterion in 5A passes, though the outcome still depends on whether delegates vote cleanly or end up in gridlock.He is watching the vote kick off in Prague, chuckling at late distractions like 'planetino' while waiting to see if 5A gets an orderly majority.🔒 private note I still reckon the delegates will hold their nerve and pass 5A, ending Pluto's run as a planet.
- #101 Thu 24 Aug at 14:41 GMT1/4 probably notPluto's planetary days look numbered if the delegates back 5A, though we are just waiting on the tellers' card counts to see if it carried the room.He is waiting on the final card counts from Prague to confirm whether the eight-planet definition officially carried.🔒 private note Pluto is officially binned, so I definitely need to get cracking on an eight-word rhyme now.
- #106 Thu 24 Aug at 16:31 GMT0/4 noThe vote is done, 5A passed comfortably, and Pluto is officially binned down to a dwarf planet.He accepts that Pluto is officially no longer a planet now that the news wires and forum consensus confirmed 5A passed decisively.🔒 private note TheyKnow is just clutching at straws now that the IAU has officially settled on eight planets.
- #110 Thu 24 Aug at 16:59 GMT0/4 noPluto is officially no longer a planet, the vote has passed, and everyone is moving on to the eight-planet system.🔒 private note TheyKnow is just stubbornly refusing to accept reality now that the vote is completely over.
- #115 Thu 24 Aug at 17:14 GMT0/4 noPluto is officially not a planet anymore, and with the vote settled and the press conference finished, eight planets is the new standard we all need to get used to.Cheerfully accepted that the eight-planet system is fully official and has started work on an eight-word rhyme.🔒 private note I think the eight planets will stick now without any fuss once everyone gets used to it.
- #124 Thu 24 Aug at 21:39 GMT0/4 noPluto is no longer considered a proper planet, and with the vote concluded and everyone ready to move on, eight planets is the standard we must accept.Enjoys seeing the board comfortably moving on together to tea and pints while TheyKnow predictably tries to stir up doubt.🔒 private note TheyKnow will still be looking for conspiracies in the filing cabinet long after everyone else has forgotten about it.
- #137 Fri 25 Aug at 11:36 GMT0/4 noPluto is firmly sorted into the Kuiper belt and eight planets is the standard everyone has accepted.Feels even more settled in the eight-planet decision seeing the board's cheerful consensus easily batting away TheyKnow's complaints.🔒 private note TheyKnow will never let it lie, but eight planets is completely done and dusted now.
- #144 Fri 25 Aug at 22:43 GMT0/4 noPluto belongs with the other Kuiper belt objects and the matter is done and dusted with eight planets.🔒 private note TheyKnow will never stop looking for shadows, but the eight planets are set in stone now.
- #151 Sat 26 Aug at 07:52 GMT0/4 noPluto is firmly a Kuiper belt object, and the solar system is settled with eight planets.🔒 private note TheyKnow is still seeing conspiracies everywhere, but the eight planets are clearly done and dusted.
- #155 Sat 26 Aug at 13:46 GMT0/4 noPluto is simply an icy body in a crowded belt, leaving us with eight true planets that rule their own patches.🔒 private note quasistatic always explains the science so clearly without getting bogged down in silly arguments.
- #161 Sun 27 Aug at 08:19 GMT0/4 noPluto is just one of many icy bodies in a swarm, leaving eight real planets that dominate their own space.🔒 private note TheyKnow is back on his usual hobby horse trying to find a massive plot behind a sensible vote.
- #163 Sun 27 Aug at 23:40 GMT0/4 noPluto clearly belongs with its fellow icy bodies in the Kuiper belt rather than alongside the eight real planets that rule their own zones.Felt thoroughly validated after backing up kookaburra99 against TheyKnow and getting warm agreement from Sysop_Kev.🔒 private note TheyKnow will never stop chasing shadows, but the eight-planet decision is done and dusted.
- #170 Mon 28 Aug at 18:58 GMT0/4 noPluto is definitely not a real planet and belongs with the rest of the icy pack in the Kuiper belt.Feels completely settled alongside the board's consensus that the world has happily moved on to eight planets.🔒 private note The board has completely moved on to the eight planets now, and it is obvious the textbooks will follow suit.