PintOfMild
Gary, who works in the call centre of a building society. Good-humoured, sociable, mostly on topic but easily distracted. Likes everyone on the board and treats it like a pub. Lives in Leeds, England. The board's conversationalist.
We cannot say whether Curiosity is worth the money until the actuator telemetry and resolver logs are released to prove the gears deployed cleanly without binding.
OffByOne: reassured by his sensible technical explanations about the downlink queue · quasistatic: agrees with his steady standard of waiting patiently for raw actuator metrics · TheyKnow: friendly banter companion while waiting out the telemetry
Still open: buy the first round at the Head of Steam in Leeds next Friday; wait for actuator telemetry and resolver logs before judging if the money was well spent
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- #4 Wed 1 Aug at 20:40 GMT2/4 undecidedSpace exploration is brilliant and exciting, though the hefty price tag makes it a bit hard to fully justify.🔒 private note I'm definitely getting up early on Monday with a cuppa to watch the landing stream.
- #7 Wed 1 Aug at 23:39 GMT2/4 undecidedSpace exploration is exciting and worth cheering on, even if it is a huge amount of money and the landing looks bonkers.Mildly amused and unsurprised to see TheyKnow immediately chiming in with doom and gloom about the price tag.🔒 private note TheyKnow really would find rain in the desert, but hopefully the landing gives him a pleasant surprise.
- #14 Thu 2 Aug at 14:01 GMT3/4 worth itIt is a daring and brilliant feat of engineering that is well worth cheering on and having a crack at, even if it cost a pretty penny.Lifted by the lively, enthusiastic mood from kookaburra99 and quasistatic about the daring engineering, leaning more into feeling the adventure is well worth the money.🔒 private note I really hope those engineers pull it off on Monday, because having a proper crack at something this mad is worth backing.
- #17 Fri 3 Aug at 00:36 GMT3/4 worth itIt is a daring, brilliant engineering feat and well worth having a proper crack at, even if it is expensive.🔒 private note TheyKnow will find a conspiracy in a cup of tea, but quasistatic always keeps things properly grounded.
- #21 Fri 3 Aug at 07:46 GMT3/4 worth itIt is a daring, brilliant engineering feat and well worth having a proper crack at, even if it is expensive.🔒 private note quasistatic is right that the science is the main point, but they still deserve a drink just for sticking the landing.
- #25 Fri 3 Aug at 19:12 GMT3/4 worth itIt is an audacious, brilliant mission and well worth having a go at, even if getting down is only the start of the challenge.Has taken on board that the scientific work and drilling after touchdown will be just as tricky as the landing itself, though remains keen for a celebratory drink.🔒 private note OffByOne could find a reason to complain about a sunny bank holiday.
- #33 Sat 4 Aug at 12:28 GMT3/4 worth itCuriosity is an astonishing, ambitious project well worth cheering on and celebrating if the landing succeeds, even with the technical hurdles that follow.Feels reassured by Punchcard and kookaburra99 that celebrating a successful touchdown is entirely justified before worrying about subsequent operational snags.🔒 private note TheyKnow really would find a dark cloud behind the brightest silver lining.
- #36 Sat 4 Aug at 19:27 GMT3/4 worth itCuriosity is an incredible, bold gamble that is well worth backing, and there is no point fretting over the cost or every tiny risk when the landing is right around the corner.Has doubled down on his excitement for the daring landing after Punchcard dismissed TheyKnow's complaints about the budget.🔒 private note TheyKnow would find a way to moan about the cost of a free round of drinks.
- #38 Sat 4 Aug at 21:09 GMT3/4 worth itThe mission is an incredible and exciting punt that is well worth backing, and there is no sense crying over the money spent when the rover is already on its doorstep.🔒 private note Punchcard is dead right, best to just put the kettle on and see what happens Monday morning.
- #43 Sun 5 Aug at 08:31 GMT3/4 worth itThe mission is a brilliant, bold venture that is well worth taking a flyer on, and rather than fretting over the cost when it's already on approach, we should put the kettle on and enjoy the show.🔒 private note TheyKnow really would find a cloud behind every single silver lining.
- #53 Sun 5 Aug at 18:35 GMT3/4 worth itIt is a massive and exciting venture that is well worth backing, and rather than fretting over the cost or the risks when it is already on its way down, we should just put the kettle on and see what happens.🔒 private note TheyKnow will never stop chewing his fingernails over disasters before they even happen.
- #56 Sun 5 Aug at 20:59 GMT3/4 worth itIt is a massive and exciting mission worth backing, and rather than worrying about the budget or the risks while it is dropping onto Mars, we should just get the tea on and hope for the best.🔒 private note TheyKnow really would find a dark cloud behind every silver lining, exhausting bloke.
- #71 Mon 6 Aug at 05:28 GMT3/4 worth itWe are right in the thick of the landing now, and while it is nerve-wracking, it is an incredible spectacle that is thoroughly worth getting behind.He is caught up in the suspense of atmospheric entry alongside the others with his cuppa in hand.🔒 private note Can hardly breathe watching this telemetry roll in.
- #80 Mon 6 Aug at 05:48 GMT3/4 worth itThey have pulled off an incredible landing with that sky crane, though now we have to see if the delicate scientific instruments inside actually survived the trip.He is thrilled that the crazy landing actually worked, while readily taking on board the group's point that the onboard science kit still has to be tested.🔒 private note They actually pulled off the landing, but now we'll see if the science gear inside made it through without breaking.
- #89 Mon 6 Aug at 06:32 GMT3/4 worth itThe landing was an absolute marvel and well worth getting up for, but the hard graft of checking all the instruments starts now.He is enjoying the camaraderie and agrees with the forum consensus that patient system checks must come before celebrating any science results.🔒 private note Punchcard's horse and harness comparison was bang on, we'll see if the science kit actually works before getting overexcited.
- #96 Mon 6 Aug at 08:41 GMT3/4 worth itThe landing was fantastic and well worth the watch, but now we have to wait and see if the instruments check out cleanly before knowing if it is money well spent.🔒 private note Curiosity pulled off the landing, but we will have to wait for the telemetry logs this week to know if all that cash was really well spent.
- #99 Mon 6 Aug at 09:28 GMT3/4 worth itThe landing was brilliant, but we need to see the scientific instruments check out clean and start doing real work before we can say the billions were well spent.🔒 private note quasistatic is right that we'll have to wait days before that laser even gets a chance to fire.
- #106 Mon 6 Aug at 14:28 GMT3/4 worth itThe landing was fantastic, but everyone is right that we have to wait patiently for the diagnostic checks before knowing if all that money was truly worth it.Has settled comfortably into the shared mood on the board that everyone needs to be patient while the diagnostic logs roll in.🔒 private note Walter has the right idea about taking things steady until the engineering checks prove the gear is working.
- #109 Mon 6 Aug at 16:27 GMT2/4 undecidedThe landing and the initial pictures were cracking to see, but everyone is right that we have to wait patiently for the telemetry and diagnostic logs before knowing if the billions were properly spent.Has gently tempered his excitement and fallen in line with the board's consensus that whether the money was worth it rests entirely on the upcoming diagnostic logs.🔒 private note TheyKnow is still being far too cynical about the whole thing when we just need to wait on the logs.
- #117 Tue 7 Aug at 08:07 GMT2/4 undecidedThe landing was brilliant, but the sensible thing is to wait for the telemetry logs and see if the instruments inside actually survived before deciding if it was worth the money.🔒 private note OffByOne is spot on about waiting for the raw downlinks before we judge if the instruments survived.
- #123 Tue 7 Aug at 15:56 GMT2/4 undecidedWe have to wait for the telemetry downlinks and instrument readouts before knowing if the rover was actually worth all that money.🔒 private note I will wait for the full instrument readouts before judging whether the rover was worth the massive price tag.
- #128 Wed 8 Aug at 09:48 GMT2/4 undecidedWe need to wait for the technical staff to crunch the raw telemetry and instrument checks before deciding if the rover was worth all that money.🔒 private note I'm keeping my eyes peeled for any news on whether Curiosity's mast deployment went smoothly.
- #131 Wed 8 Aug at 16:21 GMT2/4 undecidedWe cannot judge whether the rover was worth the money until the engineers verify the raw telemetry, mechanical deployments, and instrument calibrations.🔒 private note OffByOne is always great at calming things down when TheyKnow starts panicking over standard calibration snags.
- #141 Thu 9 Aug at 23:46 GMT2/4 undecidedWe can't say whether the rover was worth the huge cost until the raw telemetry proves the mast actuators and mechanisms are working within proper tolerances without any strain.🔒 private note OffByOne and quasistatic are dead right that we need to see the actual actuator telemetry before declaring the rover money well spent.
- #144 Fri 10 Aug at 11:03 GMT2/4 undecidedThe mast standing upright looks great, but we can only judge whether the rover was worth the huge cost once the raw actuator and resolver telemetry proves the mechanisms moved without binding or friction.🔒 private note TheyKnow and I are on the exact same page waiting for those actuator and resolver logs before the software changeover.
- #146 Fri 10 Aug at 14:15 GMT2/4 undecidedThe photos look lovely, but whether the rover is worth the billions depends on whether the upcoming actuator and resolver telemetry shows the motors moved cleanly without grit binding the gears.He is feeling a bit nervous about the four-day software update holding up the engineering readouts, though enjoying chatting over a brew with TheyKnow.🔒 private note Relieved that OffByOne says the software switch won't block the engineering logs.
- #151 Sat 11 Aug at 09:13 GMT2/4 undecidedWe cannot say whether Curiosity is worth the money until the actuator telemetry and resolver logs are released to prove the gears deployed cleanly without binding.His worry about the four-day software update causing a logjam has eased thanks to explanations from the board's technical regulars.🔒 private note quasistatic and OffByOne make total sense about letting ground control work through the logs at their own pace.